The public sentiment towards India's Advanced Artillery Gun System is largely positive, driven by national pride and enthusiasm for military advancements. However, there are notable concerns regarding the system's weight, operational efficiency, deployment timelines, and historical issues related to defense procurement. While many celebrate the achievements of DRDO and the potential for enhanced defense capabilities, the skepticism regarding practical implementation remains prevalent.

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&gt;1. What is the procedure to get a gun license in India?

I'm not sure about other states, but here in Karnaraka, you first need to complete your Civilian Rifle Training program. This is to get you acquainted with fire arms, safety involved and their usage. After this, you need to get a NOC from the Commissioner's office. They'll contact your local police station who'll verify your record. Basically to ensure that you don't have a criminal background.

&gt;2. How much does a decent handgun cost? 

Upwards of 1.5 lakhs for imported hand guns.

&gt;Who do you call? Where?

Any authorized armory in your city.

&gt;3. What are the nuances on the laws in gun usage (for self defense obviously) that one needs to know?

Not well versed with this. Indians for Guns is a good forum to check this.

&gt;4. Why did you get guns?

Captain Price asked me to pick up a primary and secondary weapon.

&gt;5. What gun(s) do you have?

Too many to remember. But M1 Garand and Mosin Nagant are my favorites.

jackfruit098

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From what I heard a almos decent handgun is almost ~3 lakh or so. But may be I am wrong. 

I always wanted to buy a high calibre sniper rifle, I guess its a good time time ask. In theory how can I purchase one?

tHeSiD

What is the procedure to get a gun license in India?

You have to apply to your local police station in theory. Practically you have to have grease a few hands up and down the chain and in state home ministry.

How much does a decent handgun cost? Who do you call?
There are licensed gun shops where you can buy one. how ever there are very very few of them as not many people have legal gun licenses in this country.

Why did you get guns?
I don't have one, my mom's brother does. I never really asked him why he got one. In the past 15 years that he has had it. He has only fired it 10-15 times that too for target practice.

What gun(s) do you have?
Smith and Wesson

randombloke

1) What is the procedure to get a gun license in India?
In west bengal you have to take the DMs permission which is not easy as you have to convince him of the purpose. 
2) How much does a decent handgun cost? Who do you call? Where?
Depends on the gun type you are looking for i.e Double bore(non rifled ), Rifle or a hand gun. You can own a max of 3 guns as long as they are of different types. Double bore is cheapest starting for 30K onwards. Hand Gun the highest can go till 8 lacs. You can ping me for guns if you have a valid license:).
3)What are the nuances on the laws in gun usage (for self defense obviously) that one needs to know?
I advice training from a professional for about 10 hours/3 days
4)Why did you get guns?
Self Defense/Save property from wild animals. 
5) What gun(s) do you have?
.22 Brno with scope view
Restricted Bore (Secret)

The best situation for an Indian to have guns is to be born in the Kodagu tribe. They are the only ones who can own rifles as a birth right and don't need license within the district. 

lokiheed

http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=504
have you checked this out. Bookmarked it some time ago, but never got down to browsing it. If you visit it and find it useful please share. 

my dad owns a mauser (i saw it in hey ram film), .375 magnum rifle (dunno about the name but it can bring down elephants) and a 20 bore double barrel shotgun (kinda seen in sunil dutt movies where he is a daku). I have only shot the bees bore. And that was in my school days about a decade back. But I have a enviable record. 48 shots fired, 48 lived cut short abrubtly. (small farm animals and birds). Now only handle them on dusshera holidays to clean them out.    

zoorakhan

http://ofbindia.gov.in/index.php?wh=Purchase

Hum hain sikaari, paacket mein lambi gun,

Thaayein se jo chhootey tan man howey magan

I am a hunter and she want to see my gun

When I pull it out boy the woman start to run ]—(2)

Door tak hai phamous, kar de sab ke bebas—(2

Usko milta darsan, jisko man mein hai lagan—(2)




I-am_Batman

I also want to get, a legal one. What's the best legal way to get decent but not-costly gun for safety purposes only ?

shamittomar

Some info:


&gt;the system was built to replace old weapons.


&gt;features: high mobility, quick deployability, auxiliary power mode, advanced communication system, automatic command and control system with night capability in direct-fire mode.

&gt; The gun is two tons lighter than guns in the same category and is designed to provide better accuracy and range and is capable of firing five successive rounds in short duration. 

&gt; The gun is capable of being deployed in high-altitude regions along India's frontier with Tibet.


&gt; In June 2021, ATAGS successfully completed trials at 15,000 feet (4,600 m) altitude.



&gt; During trials in 2017, ATAGS broke the then world record for 155 mm/52 calibre gun by firing the round to a distance of 47.2 kilometres. It again registered a maximum distance of 48.074 kilometres with high explosive–base bleed (HE–BB) ammunition, surpassing the maximum ranges fired by any artillery gun system in this category.[23][24] This has since been surpassed by M777 and later M1299 under US Extended Range Cannon Artillery (ERCA) program using 58 caliber long barrel, and XM1113 rocket-assisted artillery shell.



And if we are also buying their “special” ammunition.

The maximum range can be boosted to either 52km with Explosive Base bleed ammo and 60km with Ramjet propelled shells (still under development)



Another feature is the Indian rate of fire system, as many of their other systems that we bought have:


&gt; Burst: 5 rounds in 60 sec.

&gt;Intense: 10 rounds in 2 min 30 sec.

&gt;Sustained: 60 rounds in 60 min.

lmsoa971

Nice, no complaining, I just wish we'd see a massive anti drone weapons one day.

T-nash

This sounds great until you realize India has only built 10 of these since 2019.

Lionsledbypod

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Winter-Parsley-6071

Can Armenia buy weapons from all Arab Countries? 

How did Indian weapons compared with Iranian counterpart in terms of Quality?

Persepolis559bce

Seems fantastic. That's no joke of an artillery piece.

impossiblefork

THIS IS LIKELY INCORRECT NEWS

Recently the Indian MoD ordered 307 of the ATAGS for the INDIAN ARMY.

Armenia is speculated to have ordered the 155mm Motor Artillery Gun System or MArGS. An unknown country ordered the MArGS late last year.

domthedumb

Kaspe1

There's one thing having the weapons, but if you're not going to use them like last time its kind of pointless you know... I wonder how much dust has gathered on those fighter jets that never got used?

Complete_Raise4432

Can the Indian press pretty please chill with the leaks?

It's one thing to say we bought a certain weapon, it's another to give out exact numbers. 

I get their excited about their growing MIC, but come on guys, what's next the delivery day and time with the routes?

Approximate numbers eventually get out, but let's make it a little bit hard.

spetcnaz

Sure, let's just tell everybody what we have and how much.

Anyway, god knows when most of this stuff will get delivered.

It's still gonna be a shitshow with the drones.

Spare_Development615

A quick search on the subreddit shows a bunch of news (including official) about this purchase, no? Or is this a new one.

Typical_Effect_9054

avmonte

At this point you guys might field more atags than us lol

why are we buying towed artilleries instead of anti air capabilities , and building underground defensive systems to counter all the drone technology used by the azeris.

What the hell is a towed artillery system going to do in an open space , sitting duck for a TB2.

Own-Philosophy-5356

I would guess this is in the realm of M777? Or are there advances that this may have over that platform?

Not really. Unless Armenia acquires some good AA system, these weapons will be sitting ducks for the Azerbaijani drones.

SuperDankMemes42069

Important update: it was recently announced that the defense budget for 2023 will increase to $1.25 Billion, a 47 percent increase from 2022. Pretty big news

nakattack5

Anything non-russian is a gamechanger at this point

Lord_Mithras

bokavitch

I'm no general and I hope these generals who made the decision of what weapons to purchase know what they're doing. That stated, I do believe we need AA more than anything. Our boys can hold the front lines just fine if there is no air superiority from AZ.

Vano1Kingdom

This is good. India manufacturers about half of its own weapons and imports the rest from USA, Russia, France and other EU places. Bare minimum, this can be another outlet for Armenia to get ammunition for existing Russian systems, and get new stuff from other places. This is a great starting point 🙏

ArmeNishanian

I believe from the information we currently have, we are simply changing our armaments we’re modern ones, and replenishing our munitions.


Let’s not forget that we’re even buying anti-tank missiles according to the article, which is a huge market for the Russians as theirs are very effective.

Indian ones will be new, replenish our storages and need time to train.

So interesting that today the MoD also said that retraining for “missile experts” will start and be for 1 month

Pinaka is great at its role, but by itself this deal may not be enough. But I feel that negotiations might already be going on for other deals. I really hope that we can get you guys the Barak8 SAM. It's an Indo-Israeli system and it's very capable. Israel already sells it to Azerbaijan, so that obviously could be a problem. But I don't see why India cannot sell it to Armenia.

ElRago

Any weapon at this point is welcome. But we need to make our air safe (idk how to say it in English). This is just bayraktar food at this point. If our air is safe these can be very useful.

Sasunasar

We should buy from USA or France instead/in addition. Even if it’s more expensive, it establishes a valuable business relationship.

Levona840

With no anti-air cover without cover from fighter jets in the air and without drones they will just get picked off one by one. Now if it's part of a well thought out plan with more and different weapons being purchased it can be helpful. Armenia needs all types of weapons

Lyovacaine

Not a game-changer, just a beefaroni.

Armenia needs AA bad.

Armenia is developing rapidly and getting stronger, if they don't weaken us in the next 5 years they won't be able to.

Right now Az is as desperate as we are, they desperately need this shitty peace deal, they're running out of time.

My advice : don't give them shit, arm arm arm.

Print money if you have to, beg borrow and steal, I don't care just get the money, get the hardware.

In 15-20 years we can be a modern and developed nation with a professional army.

It's gonna be a hard deal with alot of tragedy but if we can survive we'll be golden.

We need waaaay more to catch up but it’s a promising development

ParevArev

not even close to a game changer. However, it is a good start to a hopefully evolving defense partnership

Myitchyliver

sidequestenjoyer

Does India have a long game in Armenia, or it just sees an opportunity to offload some weapons at a premium?

India doubled Russian oil purchases in the summer of 2022, which looks like India only cares about India.

fliguana

Not really. These are not guided, so basically MLRS like Grad. Still useful though.

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